If Someone Leaves Money In Slot Machine

lilredrooster

The 'official' rule is that when someone leaves, it's the casino's money. Just as if you found a casino chip on the floor - you're only using the chips as representative tokens of money for that casino, and they are property of the casino.

pretty hard to believe
http://kdvr.com/2017/11/15/casino-customers-prosecuted-for-playing-abandoned-slot-credits/
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RS
Damn, that's like.....the exact opposite thing you want to do as a casino. I suspect they're getting pressured by their gaming agency and/or state (same thing maybe?), because the state likely gets a majority of that money. But that's still weird.Machine
Assuming the casino isn't forced to bring charges against the players stealing $2 or whatever, it'd be much better in about every possible way to:
1. Don't worry about it, let it go. Only 'go after' the sleezebags that are buffalo hunting / silver mining, or whatever you call it (people who walk the aisles, cashing out anything they see).
2. Next time player is in the casino, confront them and tell them they can't play off abandoned credits.
3. Put up some signs or some disclaimer saying it's illegal to play off abandoned credits, but still follow #1 and #2 above.

A dozen or so cases involved what appeared to be intentional criminal behavior: Cheating at roulette, wandering around slot machine to slot machine looking for credits, failing to honor a raise in poker, and failing to provide valid identification for IRS purposes after winning a $1,000 jackpot.


Wait, wut?
FleaStiff
Utterly absurd. If the casino wants those credits so badly they should electronically seize them rather than having revenue officers with handcuffs lurk in the area.
Signage would be a simple matter.
onenickelmiracle
I abandoned a $16 Tito and security gave two chits. They pull out every ticket with not a care, not really sure what they do about hunting down the rightful owners. Supposedly it all goes to charity, but I'm not sure I believe it.
In the land of the blind, the man with one eye is the care taker. Hold my beer.

If Someone Leaves Money In Slot Machines

beachmonkey

I abandoned a $16 Tito and security gave two chits. They pull out every ticket with not a care, not really sure what they do about hunting down the rightful owners. Supposedly it all goes to charity, but I'm not sure I believe it.


I think it depends on the staff roster as some staff are diligently doing the job to the casino specs others are a bit more relaxed. I have on an odd occasion left money in a machine gone back and it is gone, at the cage I mentioned to the cashier that it should have been more to enter into my cage account than what I was depositing, she ask why I told her about left ticket etc ie it’s long gone, she got a suit to come with me to machine no one there no money etc Next day at cage withdrawal of day bank I was asked to wait, after some time a suit gave me paperwork for $120 odd claim . They tracked down the other person and got the cash from them. On another occasion I had dropped a ticket somewhere, afterwards I realised went to a host and told them and was told in reply too bad the casino is not responsible etc. that person didn’t know casinos rules etc. no I didn’t get cash back on that one.
So yes it is a rule re casino owners of all money on property, if staff find chips etc they are not allowed to pick up as a finder keeps they must direct security to the place it ( chip) is located. Now if I find a amount in machine I pop the ticket and give to host at main counter take their name and number just in case I have to clarify myself in the future.
If I find cash or chips on floor at table or in cash dispenser I keep ,and have not been approached in that regard ever.
We have plastic money , static electricity sticks the notes to top of inside of cash change dispenser , so people cash a $2000 ticket don’t count the Bill’s dispensed, walk away leaving a couple of hundred still in machines, you happen to be next and nice bonus, I might add if the person was just in front of me I alert them to the oversight and give them the cash , they are thankful but don’t tip ha ha , if no one was before me and I don’t take the cash to host desk , I keep it.
I have been at a baccarat table when security have taken some one off table and ask for a few hundred dollars that person had received from the day before as an over payment from a dealer mistake the day before , they explained that it’s a mistake yes but it’s up to us to be honest etc and correct dealer on the day and give it back then. So now this lady had to pay up or be fined for theft etc.
Someone She paid and was allowed to play on.
I view it as bank error, keep it , as lucky I have not been asked to pay back , I might mention I was also over paid at the same table as the above mentioned lady and I was half expecting to be asked to return some cash as well. They didn’t ask me , I didn’t volunteer, ha ha
We have free phone charger machine here ,6 units per machine type in a password put phone in to recharge close door, collect phone half hr later put in password door open collect phone. So what you say

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A few months later a security and police tap on your shoulder, you are accused of stealing a phone, you have to prove you did not , this has not happened to me personally but I have been present when acquaintances have been questioned, a couple I’m sure would not steal but the other one maybe.
I do not drink as I have to drive to and from the casino, I do not drink as I gamble, completely hard wired rule once upon arrival I bought a juice and was walking between blackjack tables back counting ( in the old days pre automatic shuffle machine) saw a count in my favour finished rest of juice put glass down and put cash on table for chips ready to play etc. tap tap on shoulder I was taken from table as I had been deemed to be drunk according to camera footage. I took them to bar and located staff members who served me etc security said sorry etc , I missed my count, no big deal , another table later etc
The point being you are on casino property and it’s their rules, a bit like going overseas and shoplifting, difference being your not at home.
Kind regards
Zcore13

I abandoned a $16 Tito and security gave two chits. They pull out every ticket with not a care, not really sure what they do about hunting down the rightful owners. Supposedly it all goes to charity, but I'm not sure I believe it.


At the casino I work at, all found money not claimed goes to the local boys and girls club. Money not paid out on jackpots due to a player being banned or self excluded also goes to charity.
ZCore13
I am an employee of a Casino. Former Table Games Director, current Pit Supervisor. All the personal opinions I post are my own and do not represent the opinions of the Casino or Tribe that I work for.
mcallister3200

Money not paid out on jackpots due to a player being banned or self excluded...
ZCore13


Wow wow wow! If you booked the bet and took the losing ones....unless you're on tribal ground.

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Zcore13

Wow wow wow! If you booked the bet and took the losing ones....unless you're on tribal ground.


Yes, tribal. That's the way all tribal casinos work in Arizona.
ZCore13
I am an employee of a Casino. Former Table Games Director, current Pit Supervisor. All the personal opinions I post are my own and do not represent the opinions of the Casino or Tribe that I work for.
RS
Meh. Usually I just pass over the money. If it's a real biggin' ($5+), I just use it all as a tip for cocktail waitress. Strawberry daiquiris and appletinis don't make themselves!
onenickelmiracle

I think it depends on the staff roster as some staff are diligently doing the job to the casino specs others are a bit more relaxed. I have on an odd occasion left money in a machine gone back and it is gone, at the cage I mentioned to the cashier that it should have been more to enter into my cage account than what I was depositing, she ask why I told her about left ticket etc ie it’s long gone, she got a suit to come with me to machine no one there no money etc Next day at cage withdrawal of day bank I was asked to wait, after some time a suit gave me paperwork for $120 odd claim . They tracked down the other person and got the cash from them. On another occasion I had dropped a ticket somewhere, afterwards I realised went to a host and told them and was told in reply too bad the casino is not responsible etc. that person didn’t know casinos rules etc. no I didn’t get cash back on that one.
So yes it is a rule re casino owners of all money on property, if staff find chips etc they are not allowed to pick up as a finder keeps they must direct security to the place it ( chip) is located. Now if I find a amount in machine I pop the ticket and give to host at main counter take their name and number just in case I have to clarify myself in the future.
If I find cash or chips on floor at table or in cash dispenser I keep ,and have not been approached in that regard ever.
We have plastic money , static electricity sticks the notes to top of inside of cash change dispenser , so people cash a $2000 ticket don’t count the Bill’s dispensed, walk away leaving a couple of hundred still in machines, you happen to be next and nice bonus, I might add if the person was just in front of me I alert them to the oversight and give them the cash , they are thankful but don’t tip ha ha , if no one was before me and I don’t take the cash to host desk , I keep it.
I have been at a baccarat table when security have taken some one off table and ask for a few hundred dollars that person had received from the day before as an over payment from a dealer mistake the day before , they explained that it’s a mistake yes but it’s up to us to be honest etc and correct dealer on the day and give it back then. So now this lady had to pay up or be fined for theft etc.
She paid and was allowed to play on.
I view it as bank error, keep it , as lucky I have not been asked to pay back , I might mention I was also over paid at the same table as the above mentioned lady and I was half expecting to be asked to return some cash as well. They didn’t ask me , I didn’t volunteer, ha ha
We have free phone charger machine here ,6 units per machine type in a password put phone in to recharge close door, collect phone half hr later put in password door open collect phone. So what you say
A few months later a security and police tap on your shoulder, you are accused of stealing a phone, you have to prove you did not , this has not happened to me personally but I have been present when acquaintances have been questioned, a couple I’m sure would not steal but the other one maybe.
I do not drink as I have to drive to and from the casino, I do not drink as I gamble, completely hard wired rule once upon arrival I bought a juice and was walking between blackjack tables back counting ( in the old days pre automatic shuffle machine) saw a count in my favour finished rest of juice put glass down and put cash on table for chips ready to play etc. tap tap on shoulder I was taken from table as I had been deemed to be drunk according to camera footage. I took them to bar and located staff members who served me etc security said sorry etc , I missed my count, no big deal , another table later etc
The point being you are on casino property and it’s their rules, a bit like going overseas and shoplifting, difference being your not at home.
Kind regards

I think you're seriously misinformed. The casinos are not city-states, do not make their own laws, whether they call them rules or not. If the casino collects a ticket, they have a responsibility to look for the rightful owner and to attempt to return the money. If they're native American joints, yes they are free to do what they want for the most part, but state regulated places shouldn't just grab and keep.
Pennsylvania does a good job of brainwashing people to think there is not finders keepers, but there is, with qualification. The law they quote with their interpretation doesn't even match up, very much so contrary in meaning.
I don't think anyone can be found guilty if they attempt to look for the owner, and they return it to the rightful owner if found. When it comes to casino employees picking up money, they have the tools, should use them, and if not, it's wrong by me.
In Ohio, unclaimed funds laws were changed from $10 minimum to $50 right after the first casinos opened. It might be why the casinos seem lazy, because perhaps it frees them from the responsibility.
In the land of the blind, the man with one eye is the care taker. Hold my beer.